Podcast Episode: 0265 |
| Can a sports car really be family-friendly? Explore how automotive designers have been tackling this paradox since the 1950s, blending the thrill of sports car performance with the practicality needed for family life. Join us as we navigate the engaging ride through the ever-evolving world of family-friendly sports cars, where style meets practicality without compromise. |
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If you want to see something really amazing that I found out, you know, while I was doing the podcast for the shooting brakes, the cover car is actually concept. We all know about the Chevrolet Nomad. Okay, the Chevy Nomad was a cool shooting brake, two-door wagon. You know that's shooting brakes back in the original days. The Australian market has kept them alive with. You know the Holden Sandman Kind of cool. And when you think about it it's even cooler if you're playing Metallica as you're driving down the road, driving in your Sandman, listening to Enter Sandman. You know, just great days, right. And most of the people that buy one of those things they're probably rocking some Metallica or, in my case, Megadeth. You just got to keep it real. But those shooting brakes they're kind of amazing vehicles. And the Nomad if you didn't know this, our cover art for that podcast is based off the original concept because the Nomad was originally supposed to be a family-friendly version of the Corvette.
Yeah, Chevrolet in the 50s thought about the great success of the Corvette and how everyone wanted to get them. This is an American version of the roadsters that all the veterans who came back from World War II had seen on the other side of the ocean, that they brought home, that they wanted back home, but they wanted an American, powerful one and they got the Corvette. Chevrolet answered them and gave them the Corvette. Well, the Nomad was Chevrolet's attempt to give us a Corvette for your family, because you got to remember. We're all moving to the suburbs. There's only one parent that's working and you know the one parent that's working also wants to blow off some steam. They want to have something cool and they want to have something fun. But if you've got a Corvette in the garage, unless you can really afford a multitude of vehicles in this case, a lot of families are getting into either one or two vehicles. That third vehicle was still kind of sitting out of your area, so the Corvette was selling but wasn't selling to the young people who really wanted it. Ford in the 60s finally answered that with the Mustang, giving us four seats in a sports car. Well, four seats in a sports car have been around for decades. Grand Touring models.
Now we all want that family-friendly vehicle. How many of us have had friends and you know they get married and they got to sell. You know, going back to some people, I knew this one guy. He got married and then she gets pregnant and he's like, oh, we need something safer for our child to move around in. And he's like, okay, I'll go out and get a vehicle. He can't find anything within reason. And then it comes to it where he's got his cell, his 93 Nissan 300zxt top and he's got the turbo model. He does not want to part with the car he has loved and owned for nearly a decade but he has to, the only way he can get a family-friendly vehicle to get the kid around.
And because you know, trust me, I've seen somebody put a car seat in the back of a 300 ZX. It's actually quite comical to even just see it in the back of one of those vehicles. It will fit. I I'm assuming watching that person put their kid into the back of the 300 ZX in a parking lot would be even funnier to see. Almost as funny as like when my wife and I used to go to the theaters on Tuesday on movie cheap nights and we used to get there early because we leave work. We go to Costco pick up a hot dog, you know nice little cheaper night and then we go to the movies and we'd sit in the parking lot we watch people park. I literally watched this one person in a minivan back into the handicap sign like that post sitting in the cement three times on top of they also hit or ran over the curb another four times, like it's just funny to watch. So, I'm sitting there thinking like this little kid in the back of 300ZX in a child seat. They got in there, but I want to know how they got in there.
So, you got to sell it. You got to lose your family-friendly vehicle and because of that you're losing it. We got the corvette nomad, the Corvair and the original Impala concepts. All showcased a family-friendly, sports inspired vehicle. But that wasn't enough. Well, along comes the 60s and a gray man by the name of John Zachary DeLorean takes a Pontiac tempest, jams a big block v8 underneath the hood and gives birth to the muscle car era with the GTO. Yes, now, if you want to research this, go back, check it out.
The GTO actually came out and hit the market before the Ford Mustang, because essentially the Ford Mustang gave birth to the pony car era, where the GTO was muscle cars, because muscle cars is a lot of power in a regular car. By doing that they put a ton of power in and kids loved it. I can now take my mom's car out all this power, and go drag racing. Sure, sports cars are great, but it's only two seats. I want to go out and I want to drag race. I want to bring my girlfriend and my best bud, because you know we're going out partying but we're going to race there. We got balls deep power in this bad boy. Muscle cars kind of gave us our new entry into somewhat of a family-friendly sports car.
But the funniest thing is, while we were doing this, the concept world was also giving us something else. They were giving us four-door mustangs, they were giving us four-door corvettes. They were showing us maybe the sports car industry can still have that family-friendly luster that we all want, because we want fun car. And I'm going to quote one of my favorite TV shows here, and Otto, when he asked for the money from Grandpa Simpson. You know, I want to soup up the bus and I want to jam those kids to school at two of the miles an hour man. Here's an artist's rendition. Notice the naked chick with the snake on the front. Yeah, Otto wanted that. And every time I think about it and see really cool ideas like that out there, it's amazing the aftermarket industry is full of it. The concept of the SRT Hellcat-powered Chrysler Pacifica is something I would want. Not jam my kids to school on, that damn thing, I don't really care. Hell, I'd use a Durango RT. Lots of power. It's more of a family-friendly power vehicle, but it's not a family-friendly sports car. And car companies still hadn't got that.
Now the shooting brake is one of the few ways we managed to get a family-friendly sports car by the 1970s Companies doing conversions or even selling variations of coach-built ones right from the factory, like Jaguar and even Corvette did Hell. There's even a Trans Am station wagon, but they're not factory produced. It's something that's still manufactured outside of the realms of the standard product. Those jaguar XJ’s you see as shooting brakes, those didn't come off the production line. Those are built afterwards.
And yet again, we're still not getting our family-friendly sports cars. We're getting a market that's trying to build interest for it. We're getting people highly interested in it because of the added cost of buying the vehicle and then building this on top of it. It's still out of the hands of your average consumer and your average consumer is the number one person who wants that family-friendly sports car. Any rich person out there can get that supercar and then roll up in a Rolls Royce. It's got supercar power underneath the hood of it, but it doesn't roll that way. No, it's just a cruiser. It's one of those fun vehicles. If you're going to drop it like it's hot, you want to do it in a Range Rover, Rolls Royce, Bentley Still not your family-friendly sports car we're looking for.
Ferrari started playing around with the idea of a four-door sedan and even though the product was great it was almost production ready they decided to pull the plug on it because the last minute they realized that this vehicle could essentially destroy the image of Ferrari. Porsche was playing around with the idea as well, stretching out a 959 to make a sedan variation of it. Both companies were sports cars, purebred sports car manufacturers, and they were considering building a high-volume vehicle to get rich families to the golf course. This wasn't about mom or dad hopping in the Ferrari with their golf clubs or, you know, skates or whatever else. You're going to do Yoga mat. You know the hot mom in the Ferrari with the yoga mat. I'm going to leave that image there, driving out to what they were going to do, you know, and then coming home. No, this is family friendly. These are a bunch of rich people that want to hop in their Ferrari, they want to drive all the way to Six Flags and they want to go ride roller coasters all day. They want to get their food and they want to come home. These are the same people that want to go to a high event gala. They want to roll a crack at destroying their image. Ferrari especially, because they essentially built that empire on sports cars with the help of the Formula One team. That's what people wanted to know them for.
Porsche was a little bit different on the other side, but in the late 70s, Lamborghini was going after a military contract to try and keep the company alive. They decided to use their engineering from the tractor division to help build the LMP-001, which is going to become a new vehicle for the Italian military. It's going to be the fastest accelerating pickup truck in the desert scene ever. It's going to be great and it's going to be a Lamborghini. Now, Lamborghini didn't do it to chase volumes. No, they did it for a military contract. Now, when that military contract was awarded to Fiat, they literally threw their hands up in the air and said Fuck, what are we going to do now? We spent all this money on this. Oh shit, man. If we turn around and sold it to the average consumer or, well, wealthy consumer, how many would we have to build to make our money back and possibly make a profit off of it. So, they crunched the numbers and realized they could.
The LM001 was essentially the first foray into a family-friendly sports car. Now, it wasn't for everyone. There were very limited production volumes. It was only for high-end clienteles. They ran into a lot of issues with these things, and even the box on it was really non-existent. It was small and barely used for anything. But the people that were buying it were buying it so them and their friends and family could get out to the cottage, drive through the sand dunes. Rich sheiks were piling their friends into the vehicles and going blaring through the back sand dunes. This was all fun, the fun for the family, and Lamborghini got us in there.
And then Dodge says hey, remember the Charger, that amazing muscle car from back in the day. Let's add two more doors to it and let's bring it out to the public. The original concept was essentially a family-friendly sports car. Its design looked like today's coupe-profile sedans. We had the CLS, which essentially helped pioneer the coupe-profile sedan market, with the Volkswagen Passat CC coming in behind it. For your average consumer, the Dodge Charger was paving the way for this. Now, when the model finally hit the marketplace, utilizing the Dodge Hemi-C concept a really weird ass looking thing you couldn't see anything from that. That kind of made it into it, except for its profile. When the Charger came out, we didn't see it as a muscle car, we saw it as a sedan. But as Dodge started putting more and more power into it, putting more emphasis on the amount of power in it, we started to see it as a family-friendly muscle car. Sorry to say, dodge kind of lost the boat on that one.
They went after the muscle car era yet again with a four-door product. A couple years down the road, Lamborghini has been taken over by Volkswagen and Lotus is with Proton. Both companies are looking for a new way to make more money and after seeing the success of the Porsche Cayenne and Porsche having the idea of building a sedan. Now the Panamera, Lamborghini plays around with the idea of the Evoque. Lotus gives us a sedan. Now only one of those two companies today actually built that sedan years later. But they thought about it. They said to themselves Porsche creating a CUV for its production line massively changed the run, how they were about to buy out Volkswagen before the market took a tumble and essentially that wheels turned and Volkswagen bought them out completely. But the cayenne was showcasing to us you can add all the sports car features into a CUV. And they're about to do it again with the Panamera Add all the sports car features into a four-door sedan.
They were building family-friendly sports cars. A Porsche Cayenne is essentially one of the very first family-friendly sports cars and, with its price being a lot lower than the LM001, its versatility being way off the scale compared to the original Lamborghini, and the fact that its price point put it in line with more entry-level, high-end earners and not just million and billionaires, it was more in line with the markets. Cadillac helped show the marketplace that these big, burly SUVs and SUVs could be done when they created the Cadillac Escalade, the first generation off the original GMC Yukon Denali. But for Porsche to give us the Cayenne and then release the Panamera. They were showcasing to us that a sports car company can change itself. They could still sell their high-end product the 911s, the 911 turbos, the 918s, the Boxster’s, the Caymans but still appeal to those same families when mom or dad hops in the 911 to go back and forth to work on the weekends, they hop in the Cayenne and Panamera to go skiing, to go to the cottage, to go on a road trip somewhere. These were built for families in mind, but yet again, trip somewhere. These were built for families and mine. But yet again it's still just a standard sedan and a standard CUV.
Here we are coming into the teen years of the 2000s. The electric industry is starting to gain traction. Ford sees something new. They're not the first company to make notice of this.
The original Nissan Murano that came out in the early 2000s was essentially a sport-infused crossover utility market. It wasn't just a standard CUV which kind of took the profile of a standard SUV. No, this had a flowing design that embodied more performance to it, kind of like the Infiniti, fx35s and 45s. They made it seem like a high-riding sports car more than a standard CUV. But at that point in time, we just called them CUVs, because that's all we saw. Anything that was lifted above the ground was a CUV. Anything close to the ground was a station wagon.
Well, by the teen years, late teen years, we could say a new marketplace was starting to take shape. Coupe profiles of CUV’s were starting to come out. We were starting to give people more of that coupe style for vehicles. BMW gave us the x6, Mercedes gave us the CLS coupes when everybody was going after this. But these, these were just, you know, standard CUV’s with a trunk.
It's a coupe, it's utilizing a coupe profile, it's not utilizing a sports car profile. We need something that looks like a sports car to give us that full family-friendly experience and we have to make it available to the masses. Well, ford became the company to crack that code, similar to henry ford cracking the original code to bring vehicles to the entire masses of the world. Ford cracked it and created with the earliest active lifestyle vehicles you can find, with the mustang Mach-e. Yeah, it's a four-door version of the ford mustang, but it's not a sedan, it's not a CUV, it's not a crossover. So, what is it? It's an active lifestyle vehicle.
Mach-e Gave birth to the first full-bred, family-friendly sports car to hit the market. It showed us something that we can all get Hell. Myself, I can afford to get one. My father can afford to get one. My aunt that runs a million-dollar corporation can afford to get one. We all can get it. So, the sports car market is just within our grasps.
You know they had sport infused vehicles. For years I owned a CX-9 first generation and, trust me, that thing really took its motto to heart. Mazda back in the day used to use that motto Zoom, zoom. You know they had that kid that used to come on right after the car went by and went Zoom, zoom. Yeah, that one.
My CX-9, first generation. That thing was crazy. I used to go off off-ramps and I could still hit between 80 and 90 kilometers an hour. Taking an off-ramp. I'd drive my truck and my beast of a Borrego. After that, a lot more power in the CX-9, I felt like it was tipping at 60. And this thing was doing it at like 80. It felt like a sports car. It handled similar to a sports car but it fit my family.
I wouldn't call it a family-friendly sports car. It was a sport-infused crossover utility vehicle. But an active lifestyle vehicle is dedicated for that sports car-interested family person. The Lamborghini Urus does that. The new Ferrari Purosangue does that. They all give us this inspiration that we could take our families for a fun night out.
You know I'm going to use a context from you know way back, so don't get pissed at me for saying this. But you know dad just wants to take the family out to get some ice cream, but he doesn't want to have to worry about kids getting ice cream all over his 70 mustangs interior. Now he's going to throw them in the Mach-e. We're going to look cool, we do it. We're going to drive fast. We're going to have fun, we're driving something.
With the drop in sales in the sports car market, with people reverting back to two car households, these car companies have to figure something out to get people to buy sports cars. What's the best way to do it? And let the family man have what he really wants. You know, I know tons of people that you know they're always pushed into buying minivans. Or you know the big suburban’s oh, we need something for the family and we need it to be safe and, you know, have all kinds of good features and easily accessible in the back of your head.
Just going, shut the fuck up, I just want to drive fast. Plus, I got to drive this beast of a thing. I don't look like a freaking; you know weird ass tool who's basically whipped by my spouse. Now I want to look like I'm cool and have fun. I'll be rolling up with this gum between my fingers. Go, oh yeah, that's right, this is mine, this is mine. Oh yeah, I don't be rolling up the minivan all crouched up forward because I'm not allowed to adjust the seat. Like Adam Sandler in that one movie, I just got to see the perfect position. Sure, you're not uncomfortable. No, no, I'm good it. And, as I like to say, when I get into my wife’s RAV, with her seat way forward, I'm like I always take the steering wheel and I look at my kids and go and I roll the seat back and I go.
If you watch the Simpsons, you know exactly what line I'm doing. Okay, yeah, yeah, you know which one. And it's funny because it's true. It's true because we're so lame. Yeah, it's so true, but in all reality, that's what we want. We want these family-friendly sports cars.
In a sense, it's the same idea as the DeLorean Alpha 5 that's coming out Essentially a four-seat sports car. Yeah, essentially a four-seat sports car. Yeah, they're here. They're only for the rich, but we finally have that family-friendly sedan that looks exactly like a sports car, we got the Camaro and the DeLorean Alpha 5. And because it's only one solid door that opens up to expose two seats on either side, it essentially falls into the same lines as the sports car industry. So, yeah, it's here. Will it diminish the appeal of other people's cars? Will it kill the two-door model arena? Or we just managed to find a way to crack the actual sports car marketplace? Are gullwing doors the answer? Because we all know that for conventional doors, I mean, it's just a sedan, but two gullwing doors sized well enough to expose two seats on the other side, that's something completely different. So, for today's marketplace, the family-friendly sports car has arrived.
Active lifestyle vehicles are where they're at, and anything else and over and above that, it's just pure fun. So, my friend that had to sell his 300 ZX to get that stupid. He didn't buy a minivan, but he got a stupid, freaking, crappy SUV. You know he's a ford guy, so probably an explorer in today's market. Yeah, he can get rid of his 300zx, but he can go out and get himself a Mach-e. It's cool, it's fun, it's great. The family-friendly sports car it's here. It looks like it's going to be sticking around for a while.
Do you agree with some of the ones that we talked about in this? Are you like myself? I still don't consider the Mustang Mach-E a true Mustang. It's the purebred Mustang name. Now it's got to be a big, burly, two-door V8 pony car. But in a sense, I'm also a family man. So, I buy a Mustang Mach-E just so I can say I got a Mustang that I jam my kids to school in.
You know, it does have that coolness ring to it, as opposed to pulling up an SRT-8-powered Pacifica. People are like, oh, you got a Pacifica, yeah, Pacifica. People are like, oh, you got a Pacifica, yeah, but it's got a big block V8 underneath the hood. I'm pumping out 600 horsepower in this bad boy. Eh, it's still a Pacifica. When you roll up in the Mustang, you're like, ooh, a Mustang. Yeah, it's an electric Mustang, it's still got four doors, but it's a Mustang. Ooh, get my drift.
That's why the family-friendly sports cars have finally come out, that we finally passed the generational gap where vehicles like this are socially acceptable and can be socially acceptable as those names, even if you know I've done podcasts about it where they essentially just stripped the soul out of the original vehicle and put it into a different one. You're Ursula and you took Ariel's soul. You're using a part number one. No, no, not really, it's just reutilization of the name. Dodge started it with the Charger.
Like I said, go back, check out the website. Go to AutoLooks.net, read some of the reviews, check out some of the ratings. Go to the Corporate Links website page. Big or small, we have them all available on the AutoLooks.net website, on the Corporate Links tab at the top of the page, and if you click the podcast one, you can bring up this podcast and see the cars that we have talked about. I know we don't have, you know, full scale YouTube video where you can see all these things flipping in the back. But you know what? Sometimes you got to do a little bit digging. Sometimes you got to use your fingers and your mind and bypass artificial intelligence and do the work yourself to find some of these things. Trust me, it's a lot more fun.
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